Zeitgeist, The Movie that you have to see!!!!

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    PsySex
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    for every body who didn't see it before!!!
    I was shocked!!!
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

    #225844 Reply

    meh, I have my doubts about Zeitgeist. if I recall my immediate response correctly, I thought the first part was quite plausible, second part was maybe, and third was just pushing it.

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    Ascension
    Keymaster

    Third part makes me question why I should believe any of the first or second.

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    PsySex
    Moderator

    You can or you can't its the point 🙂

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    Robyo
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    Zeitgeist Addendum is very good  😉

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    For me, Zeitgeist and its siblings are just an example of some very cleverly crafted collections of misrepresented information and one sided viewpoints and judgments. It's very easy for a lot of viewers to mistake it for absolute truth when there is often crucial components of the issue neglected and purposefully ignored, subsequently being left out. I won't deny that there is some degree of credence and authenticity to a bit of it but a lot of what I've seen is either warped and skewed beyond recognition or bits and pieces of a much larger transpiring of events.

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    Robyo
    Participant

    Give some examples for debate, por favor…

    Obviously, you can't believe everything you see on the internet (no, really!). Especially when it's a supercharged artistic statement like Zeitgeist (or Esoteric Agenda, another great source of info). However, if you do your own research too, you can gleam some of the truth that's out there. You certainly won't find it in the corporate-controlled mainstream media.

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    Ascension
    Keymaster

    I don't like videos like this since they play too much into the “you only believe what you want to” mentality. Way too many people watch these and take all of the information presented as absolute fact.

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    Robyo
    Participant

    Are you saying you don't like documentaries because they make you think in a manner of which you are unaccustomed? I also don't know anyone who believes Zeitgeist to be absolute fact.

    I think it's good to see a lot of the info brought together, even if it is slanted in the directors view. ALL ART IS SLANTED. There's much I don't agree with in the first one, but the information is intriguing. I much prefer the Addendum because it explains so much of the federal reserve and the fractional reserve banking system. It also offers some good solutions, (even if they are also problematic). Not to mention the production value is excellent for a dude making them on his own at home.

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    Robyo
    Participant

    For me, Zeitgeist and its siblings are just an example of some very cleverly crafted collections of misrepresented information and one sided viewpoints and judgments. It's very easy for a lot of viewers to mistake it for absolute truth when there is often crucial components of the issue neglected and purposefully ignored, subsequently being left out. I won't deny that there is some degree of credence and authenticity to a bit of it but a lot of what I've seen is either warped and skewed beyond recognition or bits and pieces of a much larger transpiring of events.

    this seems to explain history in general  😉

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    Ascension
    Keymaster

    Are you saying you don't like documentaries because they make you think in a manner of which you are unaccustomed? I also don't know anyone who believes Zeitgeist to be absolute fact.

    I think it's good to see a lot of the info brought together, even if it is slanted in the directors view. ALL ART IS SLANTED. There's much I don't agree with in the first one, but the information is intriguing. I much prefer the Addendum because it explains so much of the federal reserve and the fractional reserve banking system. It also offers some good solutions, (even if they are also problematic). Not to mention the production value is excellent for a dude making them on his own at home.

    There's a difference between getting you to think in a different way and trying to convince you of something through a biased point of view.

    I'm not arguing any specific points in the movie, just movies like this in general. A sheet of actual facts and proven solutions would be a much better medium to read on this subject. There are just better ways to get real information is what I'm trying to say.

    Sadly there are PLENTY of people who take the information in this movie as actual fact (i've discussed this movie on other forums before- it's pretty shocking to read what some people believe). Don't you think that was the movie creator's intent anyway?

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    Machi
    Guest

    I like how they talk about religious stuff also some facts about 9/11 they brought give you something to think about.

    #225850 Reply

    Yes, Robyo ..I am not going to deny that my little abridged synopsis of thoughts regarding these type of presentations does vaguely ring familiar for a lot of the past. My focal complaint with these films is that there is a large percentage of the viewers who choose not to look any further than Zeitgeist etc for their answers..they receive and process everything @ face value without doing their own research into the matters in question. In my opinion, that is dangerous…to the truth and to the allocation of information. Under heavy scrutiny one can find many errors and inaccuracies in what's being said in most of the aforementioned films..and it's often done on intentionally. You say, isn't all art slanted? Well yes, but when you slant something to further your machination agenda that's a different story entirely. You take your pick of which one you want me to focus on and I'll be more than happy to present the fallacies I have found after watching.

    #225851 Reply

    you should do the first, I haven't seen the second. 😉

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    HARDKORNATE
    Member

    Yes, Robyo ..I am not going to deny that my little abridged synopsis of thoughts regarding these type of presentations does vaguely ring familiar for a lot of the past. My focal complaint with these films is that there is a large percentage of the viewers who choose not to look any further than Zeitgeist etc for their answers..they receive and process everything @ face value without doing their own research into the matters in question. In my opinion, that is dangerous…to the truth and to the allocation of information. Under heavy scrutiny one can find many errors and inaccuracies in what's being said in most of the aforementioned films..and it's often done on intentionally. You say, isn't all art slanted? Well yes, but when you slant something to further your machination agenda that's a different story entirely. You take your pick of which one you want me to focus on and I'll be more than happy to present the fallacies I have found after watching.

    Zeitgeist adds up pretty nicely with the info in “The Money Masters”

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