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    Ok, well I am FINALLY starting my musical journey. Meaning I will FINALLY be dj-ing and producing. I am starting off on a laptop, which I think is most cost effective for me. Getting decks and all that equipment is a tad more expensive and plus I cant make music on them.

    So…….I am looking for any and ALL advice to make my journey better.I have a lot of friends that have some awesome musical talent and I would like to hear from all you guys.

    I will be most likely using Traktor for dj-ing and Ableton for producing. SO whacha all got for me???!!!

    #243011 Reply
    Machi
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    watcha need?

    seems I won't be able to help you much anyways, I am not advanced in producing enough yet and….despise the whole traktor djing  :P. But I will listen to your mixes and will give you honest feedback, you can count on that.

    #243012 Reply

    Oh I know I'll get feedback! Im sure there wont be any shortage on that!  😛

    Just like tips on do's and dont's stuff like that. Pet peeves people have about mixing anykind of useful advice. Ive got the basic hang of everything cause Ive been around it for YEARS.

    How bout this, since Im using a laptop, I need a good mixer to hook up to it, because Im not gonna be one of THOSE guys. So what would be a good mixer to get?

    #243013 Reply
    Machi
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    any pioneer or allen&heath, you'll pay more up front but it will be cheaper in a long run. I have been using my pioneer djm500 for 6 years now, beating shit out of it and still works almost like new, never done anything to it, it even landed and slid down the staircase in the club once…so called epic failure with happy ending

    #243014 Reply
    esmokah
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    i love my pioneer djm-707. discontinued so they're hard to find. pioneer is a pretty solid choice any way you go mixer wise.

    it is a color match to my cdj-800 mk2s too 🙂

    #243015 Reply
    Machi
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    i love my pioneer djm-707. discontinued so they're hard to find. pioneer is a pretty solid choice any way you go mixer wise.

    it is a color match to my cdj-800 mk2s too 🙂

    Andy, when will I hear some mixes of yours bro?

    #243016 Reply
    Ascension
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    You'll also need a soundcard to interface between your laptop and the mixer. I've got an m-audio fast track pro usb- most people don't like it, but I've never had problems- and it's something cheap to get started with. I don't really have much for other suggestions for soundcards, but you usually get what you pay for in that department.

    If you want a solid mixer pioneers are great (anything above this would be overkill for starting out). The djm 350 is the new 2 channel one. You could also look for a used djm 400, which is the discontinued 2 channel one. If you want something cheaper but still solid, Numarks are good (this one is dece and half the price of the aforementioned pioneers: http://www.djdeals.com/numarkX6.htm ).

    Overall beat matching is a pretty basic concept. Set the cue on the first kick beat (traktor has snap points for this- kicks are the loudest part of a track so it'll be obvious when you look at the waveform), then start it when the track that's playing on the master starts a new phrase. There's tons of resources online for this- I'm sure there's a bunch of youtube videos that should explain it well. The hard part is making a set of flowing tracks that tell a story and don't sound like crap when mixed together. I'd just start putting some similar sounding stuff in a folder and work on mixing those together. My first few mixes were terrible, but thanks to people like machi and derek, I got tons of good advice posting them on here. It all just takes lots of practice and time, so keep at it. Learn the basics first, then expand from there.

    #243017 Reply

    You'll also need a soundcard to interface between your laptop and the mixer. I've got an m-audio fast track pro usb- most people don't like it, but I've never had problems- and it's something cheap to get started with. I don't really have much for other suggestions for soundcards, but you usually get what you pay for in that department.

    If you want a solid mixer pioneers are great (anything above this would be overkill for starting out). The djm 350 is the new 2 channel one. You could also look for a used djm 400, which is the discontinued 2 channel one. If you want something cheaper but still solid, Numarks are good (this one is dece and half the price of the aforementioned pioneers: http://www.djdeals.com/numarkX6.htm ).

    Overall beat matching is a pretty basic concept. Set the cue on the first kick beat (traktor has snap points for this- kicks are the loudest part of a track so it'll be obvious when you look at the waveform), then start it when the track that's playing on the master starts a new phrase. There's tons of resources online for this- I'm sure there's a bunch of youtube videos that should explain it well. The hard part is making a set of flowing tracks that tell a story and don't sound like crap when mixed together. I'd just start putting some similar sounding stuff in a folder and work on mixing those together. My first few mixes were terrible, but thanks to people like machi and derek, I got tons of good advice posting them on here. It all just takes lots of practice and time, so keep at it. Learn the basics first, then expand from there.

    Good advice. Ill need pointers on equipement for sures. I have spun vinyl in my day so Im sorta used to the beatmatching thing. I used to do a lot of that with break beats and regular trance.

    As far as track selection and picking out my music, I've been getting alll that ready for the past 6 years now and Ive got QUITE the story to tell believe me on that. Shitty thing is that I had all my music jacked when my PS3 got stolen. I had like 60 gigs worth of stuff so I gotta start all over. I did replace some of it, but a lot of my really good music that Ive taken years picking out is gone. But Ive got SOME good tunes now, always wanting to get more though.

    I've prlly got about 12 sets picked out already ranging from gnarly progressive to crunchy morning and twilight to a couple awesome tech house and minimal sets. I cant fucking wait to play them

    #243018 Reply
    zensphere
    Member

    ^awesome, dood. Can't wait to hear them!

    As far as production advice goes, I would say to devour all of the tutorials you can, familiarize yourself with basic synthesis architecture – know how filters work, what lfos can do, etc. and experiment ceaselessly. There is definitely a bit of a learning curve w/ production, but if you take advantage of other ppls experience (tutorials!) you can save yourself a lot of time and frustration.

    Good luck!

    #243019 Reply
    justin
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    #243020 Reply

    What are some other good soundcards?

    #243021 Reply
    Machi
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    What are some other good soundcards?

    audio kontrol 1 from Native Insturments, comes with the whole bunch of  free soft: traktor, cubase and soft synth of your choice: absynth5, massive or FM8

    #243022 Reply

    What are some other good soundcards?

    audio kontrol 1 from Native Insturments, comes with the whole bunch of  free soft: traktor, cubase and soft synth of your choice: absynth5, massive or FM8

    NOICE, how much does that usually run?

    #243023 Reply
    aktif
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    #243024 Reply
    Machi
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    lazy ass

    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AudioKont1/?gclid=CKzro-Xk-qICFWE45wod1DW50w

    even better deal then one I got two months ago

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