[AlienAudience]

Also, I don't mean to beat this to death but there are some other shrewd but semi-alarming tactics used by these producers as well…they have a knack for weaving truths and falsehoods together into one seamless node of storytelling so uneducated viewers cannot distinguish between fact and fabrication. The adroit tendency to overtly state a widely known fact in the midst of their exaggerated and incomplete narrative only to compliment this scenario and train of thought with the viewer  “Well, that is a well known fact, so therefor, the rest of this information must also be certainty.” This is just what I've noticed when checking out some of the videos floating around online..don't these sleight of hand like methods of sharing information seem needless and nonessential if it's all supposed to be within close proximity to the truth? I am in the process of re-watching most of Zeitgeist and checking out addendum for the first time so I can provide some clear examples of what I'm referring to.

[Ascension]

^ That's probably what I woulda said if I was good with words 🙂

[Machi]

other then some formats, phrasing and stuff: can you guys proove that anything is being said in the movie isn't the truth based on some facts and evidence?

[AlienAudience]

Absolutely, if you would read my comment you'll see in the latter half where I said I'm in the process of re-watching some of the films mentioned so I can provide clear and precise examples of the exaggerations and inconsistencies.

This has nothing to do with 'phrasing' …it has to do with being able to differentiate between fact and fiction. If someone watches one of the videos without much prior knowledge to the topics being mentioned there's a very strong chance they're going to believe what they're watching because it's very cleverly put together – I explained these tactics a bit more in depth in my last post..the one you labeled 'Phrasing' ..

Stand by for some actual concrete examples..it may take me some time to write up everything I need to say

[AlienAudience]

While I'm writing this..

Can you provide me with proof that everything being said in the movie IS truth based off facts and evidence?

[cosmicvibrations]

Thanks for your effort Trevor. 😉 I'm interested to read what you have to say.

[Machi]

While I'm writing this..

Can you provide me with proof that everything being said in the movie IS truth based off facts and evidence?

to answer your question: no, I can't. In order to do it I would have to devote half of my life doing research about religion, war and terrorizm, politics and banking system in America. I'd rather work on my music.

Trevor, I just asked this question based on curiosity to the person who seems  to dig that subject a lot, so don't take it too personal, please.

[PookztA]

Dear Forum,

Did we ever really have a choice in the election of George Bush Jr. vs John Kerry, or any other election? Please watch these short videos and give me your opinion…

1. Have George Bush Jr (Rep) and John Kerry (Dem) ever admitted that they were BOTH part of an elite secret society? See for yourself (54 seconds long): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPh7sUvhZ3E

2. What goes on within the Skull and Bones secret society? See for yourself (2 minutes 49 seconds): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGqAGuw23CM

3. Did any president ever find out about these Secret Societies and bring public attention to the situation? Hear the speech that got JFK assassinated here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

I try not to get caught up in the silly confusing details, but it is rather obvious to me that very greedy, selfish people have worked their way into the highest offices of our government, and are using it for their own greedy intentions rather than for the greater good of the entire world population. Don't get caught up on words like “Illuminati” or “Freemasonry” or anything like that.

just ask yourself, Why are MILLIONS dying of starvation, disease, and famine, when there is MORE THAN ENOUGH to go around?
How can there be BILLIONAIRES in this world at the same time there are MILLIONS dying right in front of our eyes?
How can fools that practice such evil and disgusting rituals such as those found in the Skull and Bones society make their way into the highest ranking political office of our entire country?!”
How come we only had a choice between one skull and bones member versus another (Bush Jr vs Kerry), when trying to decide who would make the decisions for our ENTIRE country?!?!
WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

……… maybe it's a secret……….?

NOT ANYMORE. (…thanks to Zeitgeist, Esoteric Agenda, Kymatica, Money Masters, America: Freedom to Fascism, Ring Of Power, and all the rest of the amazing, life-changing videos that are helping the global tribe to wake up and come together on a scale never-before-seen, to finally vanquish the darkness in the world with our infinitely powerful love and light.)

It is a very good time to be alive if you ask me,

-Abe

[cosmicvibrations]

Okay, so. These videos, and others I've seen, have established reasonably enough that secret societies exist. I believe that. What they haven't established is how, if at all, they fit into the picture, and they haven't convinced me that secret societies fit into the very big and crucial role you're purporting them to.

I agree that it's totally sketchy. What makes you think it's anything more than sketchy, though?

[PookztA]

Okay, so. These videos, and others I've seen, have established reasonably enough that secret societies exist. I believe that. What they haven't established is how, if at all, they fit into the picture, and they haven't convinced me that secret societies fit into the very big and crucial role you're purporting them to.

I agree that it's totally sketchy. What makes you think it's anything more than sketchy, though?

im glad you feel comfortable knowing that the people who make the decisions for our ENTIRE COUNTRY are in the least “sketchy”, or worse, corrupt on an even larger scale.  if you ask me, that makes you a bit “sketchy” since you are willing to risk the well-being of the entire American population on the “sketchiness” of these people. (not near as sketchy as Bush, Kerry, Obama, and most of the rest of em. I was JK, i just wanted to make a point. do you see where i am coming from?)

maybe you should start doing some research on this Leo… if you have questions, find the answers, the information is all out there. just make sure you think for yourself, don't take my word for it, don't take others, just find the answers from multiple sources and compare the sources to each other.

thanks for watching the videos Leo, i truly appreciate it.

-Abe

[cosmicvibrations]

LOL. Of course I don't feel comfortable knowing that, Abe! There's a lot of stuff about our leaders and the way we do things that I don't feel comfortable about. I was just pointing out that these videos don't provide much evidence that secret societies fit into the big, big role that you feel they do.

You're welcome. I feel curious about it, I just haven't done research, and personally… I don't want to hear Alex Jones (for example) talk for that long.

Maybe I'll do some googling. 😉

[Ascension]

The question I always ask people who get into these movies is: What are you gonna do about it? Does it really make a difference if you “know the truth” and don't do anything about it? How is that any different from not knowing and not doing anything?'

Just some things to ponder 🙂

[cosmicvibrations]

^Also a valid point, yeah. I'm not about to go torching Skull-and-Bones headquarters. This is pretty much for curiosity's sake for me.

ALTHOUGH on a similar but separate note, does any form of intellectual diddling neccessarily make a difference? Not really, but I'll still learn the chemical formula for chlorophyll for fun. The likelihood that it will do anything for me in the real world is quite slim, but that doesn't stop me! Catch my drift?

[PookztA]

The question I always ask people who get into these movies is: What are you gonna do about it? Does it really make a difference if you “know the truth” and don't do anything about it? How is that any different from not knowing and not doing anything?'

Just some things to ponder 🙂

throw Psytrance parties and burn the symbol of the corruption, the pyramid with the all-seeing eye…

many people said they developed a spiritual sense of the world at that event because it was so symbolic in restablishing their hope for humanity. this is my intention with all future Psy events i am a part of, is to help people to learn of this truth, then to use it to their advantage by turning the fear into fuel for the soul to do good for the world! just my 2 cents. the more we know about them, the fewer of them there are. they are fleeing at a very rapid pace. just by learning of it and thinking about it and talking about it and beginning to think more independently and not just listen to the main stream news and stuff, that is accelerating the process. we are creatures of light, and the brighter our light shines the faster the darkness flees. just my thoughts.

[Ascension]

^Also a valid point, yeah. I'm not about to go torching Skull-and-Bones headquarters. This is pretty much for curiosity's sake for me.

ALTHOUGH on a similar but separate note, does any form of intellectual diddling neccessarily make a difference? Not really, but I'll still learn the chemical formula for chlorophyll for fun. The likelihood that it will do anything for me in the real world is quite slim, but that doesn't stop me! Catch my drift?

Yeah, but learning something like that could be useful somewhere down the line you don't even know about now (ie- what if it ended up being a question for you on jeopardy or something).

I'm glad you agree, I have just see so much talk about these and usually no one is ever gonna do anything about it, so I think's a valid thing to say. By agreeing with this movie, you're pretty much calling someone or a group of people out on something, so it's only fair to be called out on yourself.

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