[devious]

Well, the time has come…Twisted Records is going BROKE.  Like every other wonderful psytrance label of the past (nevermind these idiot labels that keep forming now 😉 they'll last a few months, move on, and so on and so forth).  ANYWAYS, back on track, SImon is PERSONALLY selling remaining inventory on eBay.  Signed autographed CDs.  I've spoken with him in e-mail and it is indeed Simon and has been verified via his website's webmaster with me too.  And it was finally posted on the twisted website as being true.

I'm talking to him, and I made mention about a particular way he could save his label.  I'm awaiting his response and I'll fill you folks in upon receipt of response.  My idea was a good one that was based on the collaborated discussions of primarily folks from Europe.  And old goa collectors.  So, if he bites it even the slightest bit, I'll post it here.

Simon and Raja are my two favorite psy personalities :> Having had internet communications with both of them in the past, they're always a deilght to talk with.  I caught Raja in the middle of a tour.  Whoever's computer he was using, well, it was in Israel at the time.  We talked about flutes.  Very kind man.  On this note, I highly recommend:

The Infinity Project's Feeling Weird, Mystical Experiences, and for a nice touch of nostalgic reference, “The Law EP” which is *EXTREMELY RARE* but I managed to score a mint copy for five bucks  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D  ;D

So, I just wanted to point it out.  Look for that special Shpongle CD with Simon offering to personalize his autograph to your name on eBAy and it is for a cause….to benefit keeping Twisted Records alive.  =]

Aaron

[damon]

Fuckin' expensive  >:(

[underfoot]

How to save psy labels : buy their releases.

[devious]

How to save psy labels : buy their releases.

Yeah, well, unfortunately, psy isn't a huge seller anymore.  With the new “psysound” out and stuff, all the people who loved it most really don't buy much of it anymore and usually stick to the stuff that doesn't support the labels, or the out of print stuff.  I told Simon to retract his comment about not releasing under the name Hallucinogen again and release another oldskool Hallucinogen album and he'd be saved for another 10 years ;> cause everyone's still loving Twisted and Lone Deranger…like it was yesterday.

Aaron

[damon]

Yeah, well, unfortunately, psy isn't a huge seller anymore.  With the new “psysound” out and stuff, all the people who loved it most really don't buy much of it anymore and usually stick to the stuff that doesn't support the labels, or the out of print stuff.  I told Simon to retract his comment about not releasing under the name Hallucinogen again and release another oldskool Hallucinogen album and he'd be saved for another 10 years ;> cause everyone's still loving Twisted and Lone Deranger…like it was yesterday.

True.

[devious]

True.

False.

[underfoot]

Geez…I'm all for nostalgia and stuff, but come on.  It's not like ANYBODY'S making music of the same caliber anymore.  And was goa/psy *ever* a huge seller, even in just the dance music market?  If goa is as dead as you're making it out to be, then maybe — just maybe — people who haven't kept up with it post '97 are partially to blame, eh?  Eh???

You sound like the people from my parents' generation who complain that there hasn't been any good rock 'n' roll since the 70s.

[damon]

False.

Your mom is false.

[damon]

Geez…I'm all for nostalgia and stuff, but come on.  It's not like ANYBODY'S making music of the same caliber anymore.  And was goa/psy *ever* a huge seller, even in just the dance music market?  If goa is as dead as you're making it out to be, then maybe — just maybe — people who haven't kept up with it post '97 are partially to blame, eh?  Eh???

It's not dead.

You sound like the people from my parents' generation who complain that there hasn't been any good rock 'n' roll since the 70s.

Cause there hasn't been any …. ;D

[damon]

Geez…I'm all for nostalgia and stuff, but come on.  It's not like ANYBODY'S making music of the same caliber anymore.  And was goa/psy *ever* a huge seller, even in just the dance music market?  If goa is as dead as you're making it out to be, then maybe — just maybe — people who haven't kept up with it post '97 are partially to blame, eh?  Eh???

It's not dead.

You sound like the people from my parents' generation who complain that there hasn't been any good rock 'n' roll since the 70s.

And they're right cause there hasn't been any …. ;D

[devious]

Geez…I'm all for nostalgia and stuff, but come on.  It's not like ANYBODY'S making music of the same caliber anymore.  And was goa/psy *ever* a huge seller, even in just the dance music market?  If goa is as dead as you're making it out to be, then maybe — just maybe — people who haven't kept up with it post '97 are partially to blame, eh?  Eh???

You sound like the people from my parents' generation who complain that there hasn't been any good rock 'n' roll since the 70s.

I agree with the first part (same caliber), however, psy albums on the primary labels sold plenty.  I wouldn't say post 97, more like post 2000, erm, even a lot of stuff in 2001 was good ;> but thereafter, bah humbug.  It's not the people so much to blame, it's the artists.  We're hearing a return of Transwave soon with a 4th album?  We're excited, but once we hear it, we'll be disappointed.  Our “American” market of psytrance is far different from those overseas.  Sure, people buy the new stuff, but 9 out of 10 releases today get a less than 5 on a 1-10 scale in most reviews and personal opinions I read.  It's not as dead, it is dead.  Goa's gone, psychedelic soundscapes, gone.  Psytrance in it's form of being…”psychedelic”, pretty much gone.  Where's all the organic noises we're used to hearing in the origin of psytrance?  It was these sounds that made the tracks truely psychedelic.  Without the organic sounds, why even call it “psytrance?”  Yeah, there's us jaded “oldskool” lovers.  I can't help it.  It doesn't make me better than any one of you.  But there's nothing like candyflipping to a track like Cycles of Life by Transwave, or dancing your ass off to feel the universe (juno) while trying to actually feel the universe.

It's all preference.  But I will argue with anyone, without the organic sounds, forget about it.  It's not psychedelic, period.  I remember when at a last party, I heard a ton of full-on basslines, with a lot of fillers that clashed rather than flowed.  I hate admitting it BUT I had more fun in my car listening to a CD that night ;>.  I just feel the lack of psytrance in the mid/late 90's kind of brought about a new breed of “psytrancers” in the Midwest.  My disappointment lies within that particular realm.  When I hear these new people saying “man, you'd be stupid to pay 50 bucks for that CD” and then listening
to those 5 CDs they got for that fifty bucks, I realize that anything on drugs sounds good ha ha ha ha.  and psychedelic.

By the way, another fact is, labels kind of caused their own death, putting aside the distributors.  Look at Blue Room.  Wonderful psychedelic label, it was blooming, and kept blooming, but they were allowed experimentation, and they did.  Their experimentation was far from psychedelic but they released some good shit but lost a huge fanbase as time went on.  TIP Records got screwed with a distributor so they went kaboom for awhile before being revived as TIP.World.  Flying Rhino, another experiment gone disgusting.  When artists lost the organic feel and sound….people became less interested and it seems most of the hardcore oldskool diehard goa fans moved onto ambient/chill out, because you were able to find organic sounds and basslines in ambient still. ;> 

I won't argue, it's pointless.  To each their own.  But I'd rather listen to something that's essentially psychedelic sounding if I want to listen to what we call “psytrance” and not something with bassline torture that we call “dark.”  Listen to Darshan's Awakening album, if you want a godly dark psychedelic album. 😉  Nothing will compare to that, period.  HEH (for darkness anyways)

Aaron

[sot]

… i'll agree with you on several points Devious. Darshan's “Awakening” is timeless. Labels causing their own demise… to a degree on this one:  due the fact that small lables have harder time surviving with business model that works well for larger incorporated enterprises ( Label + print plant + distributor +music store +import/export tax cuts)  period and what is more at fault here is unclear.

however as for the rest…. “organic” sound you speak off… , artists being at fault…,  psychedelic soundsapes being gone….
all of which sound like baseless opinions to me.  your personal tastes are hardly the litmus test for all genre.

be well.

[Robyo]

Geez…I'm all for nostalgia and stuff, but come on.  It's not like ANYBODY'S making music of the same caliber anymore.  And was goa/psy *ever* a huge seller, even in just the dance music market?  If goa is as dead as you're making it out to be, then maybe — just maybe — people who haven't kept up with it post '97 are partially to blame, eh?  Eh???

It's not dead.

You sound like the people from my parents' generation who complain that there hasn't been any good rock 'n' roll since the 70s.

Cause there hasn't been any …. ;D

FALSE  🙂

[Robyo]

define “organic sounds” please…

Aaron, you should just admit that you're an old fuddy duddy  😉

DJs have long supported the electronica industry and now they're just downloading trax to their laptops and ipods like the rest of the masses… What's a label to do, but give up selling high-overhead albums and just upload trax?? Artists can do that themselves…

Fear not the demise of psytrance; there will always be a need for mindbending music  ;D  😮

[devious]

however as for the rest…. “organic” sound you speak off… , artists being at fault…,  psychedelic soundsapes being gone….
all of which sound like baseless opinions to me.  your personal tastes are hardly the litmus test for all genre.

All I need to say here is “full-on anyone?” =]]]]]]]]]]

TRUE.

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