[emilybobemily]

the website that he posted looked rather jokey. imo. not even remotely credible. the banner ads on it were RIDICULOUS.

there is a lot to be said for people who take the time for graphic design.

[conspiratheorist]

Too much of anything is bad.

Too much to Fluoride is bad ? Hell yeah.

What is the point of Pook's useless copy pasting ??

[edais]

I don't really know.

[PookztA]

i copy-pasted the summaries of those studies multiple times because some people don't read stuff the first time you show it to them.

people like Pauldo claim to be scientific thinkers, and then I post a bunch of scientific studies and their conclusions regarding the harmful effects of Fluoride, and they are completely ignored.

i am starting to realize that there are a lot of really unintelligent and ignorant people in the Psytrance community, people that are not worth wasting this much of my time over, especially considering how much study time I have lost in my attempts to INFORM some of the people I care about of IMPORTANT issues such as this one, only to be met with insults from people like Damon that contribute little or nothing to this forum but mom jokes and disrespect.

i always thought this community was far more evolved than it truly has turned out to be, but oh well, at least I am looking out for the people in it by sharing this health-related information.

consider the science or don't, the evidence has been brought to your attention, now what you do with it is up to you.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABE.

I think the best way to handle situations like this in the future is to post the information and then just leave the thread alone. I will let the trolls fight with each other and throw their insults into the wind. if you want to live a longer, healthier life, then you will care about issues such as this one. if you don't care, then that is your choice, and you can deal with the consequences when the time comes, but at least there was this current period of time in which someone cared enough about YOUR health that he decided to post credible scientific information to help inform some of the people he cares about.

Peace the fuck out,

-Abe

[Nameless One]

“there are a lot of really unintelligent and ignorant people in the Psytrance community”

“i always thought this community was far more evolved than it truly has turned out to be”

Wow, these comments really speak for themselves.

Abe, you really should shut the fuck up. You're acting like an arrogant prick. Everyone has been telling you in a thousand different ways to get off your pedestal. Your heavy-handed, disingenuous approach is not working. It is dividing the community and stirring up animosity. When are you going to clue in? You could assault these forums with another cut 'n paste hit job about the Earth revolving around the sun and no one's going to listen. Your have discredited yourself. You cast a shadow over any information you seek to present here. No one is listening anymore. It's all a big joke and your phony attempts to win favour with sycophantic superlatives readily demonstrates this. Why don't you take a week break from the forum and let everything settle for once? What you are doing is obviously not working.

[justin]

It is proven scientific fact that drama is worse for you than fluoride. Fact.

[Pauldo]

sycophantic superlatives

Xeno with the mad language skillz!  ;D

[PookztA]

Let's see here…

I posted a scientific journal article because I felt like it was important to share with the community, and in return, I was told that I was posting more “crazy stuff” by Pauldo (who lives in Texas), told to “shut the fuck up” by damon (who lives in Poland), and told to “shut the fuck up” by Xeno (who lives in Canada).

When a “scientific thinker” (Pauldo) responds to the posting of scientific information by calling it “more crazy stuff”, then he really shows how unscientific and illogical he truly is, which is unfortunate. When a “scientific thinker” (Xeno) cares more about talking shit to me than discussing this important information which concerns our health, then that person shows where his focus truly lies. Neither of you “scientific thinkers” have said anything remotely productive to promote discussion regarding this important scientific information which concerns our health, but you both sure as hell have sent disrespectful comments my way.

So since Xeno, Pauldo, and damon, all who do not live anywhere close to the Midwest Psytrance community, would rather attack me than reviewing and discussing this important scientific information which concerns all of our health, then I will just have to start using a stronger filter to ignore your unintelligent and hateful comments.

I am very appreciative of the people who have taken time to review this information and give their intelligent opinion on it, such as Justin and Phil. I am also appreciative of those who replied with neutral comments, like Nick and Emily. For those of you that replied with respectful comments or discussion, thank you. For those of you that have ignored the information and attacked me instead, well, I have nothing more to say to you.

*filter applied* 😉

Boom,

-Abe

[edit: changed the word 'care' to 'cares']

[conspiratheorist]

i copy-pasted the summaries of those studies multiple times because some people don't read stuff the first time you show it to them.

COULD IT BE THEY ARE IGNORING YOUR 'INFORMATION' ??

people like Pauldo claim to be scientific thinkers, and then I post a bunch of scientific studies and their conclusions regarding the harmful effects of Fluoride, and they are completely ignored.

WHAT IS THE CONCLUSION ? EVERYONE KNOW 'ANYTHING' IN EXCESS IS HARMFUL !!!

i am starting to realize that there are a lot of really unintelligent and ignorant people in the Psytrance community, people that are not worth wasting this much of my time over, especially considering how much study time I have lost in my attempts to INFORM some of the people I care about of IMPORTANT issues such as this one, only to be met with insults from people like Damon that contribute little or nothing to this forum but mom jokes and disrespect.

BY PISSING OFF ONE OF THE MOST PEACEFUL CREATURES AROUND (DJ CHILL DAMON) JUST SHOWS WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE !!

i always thought this community was far more evolved than it truly has turned out to be, but oh well, at least I am looking out for the people in it by sharing this health-related information.

YES THIS COMMUNITY IS EVOLVED AND YOU AREN'T THE SMARTEST ONE HERE !!

I think the best way to handle situations like this in the future is to post the information and then just leave the thread alone. I will let the trolls fight with each other and throw their insults into the wind. if you want to live a longer, healthier life, then you will care about issues such as this one. if you don't care, then that is your choice, and you can deal with the consequences when the time comes, but at least there was this current period of time in which someone cared enough about YOUR health that he decided to post credible scientific information to help inform some of the people he cares about.

IF YOU HAVENT ALREADY REALISED THIS, YOU ARE THE BIGGEST TROLL HERE !!!!!

[Nameless One]

Let's see here…

You're completely ignoring the social context into which you thrust this “scientific journal article” i.e. the last 4 months of you spamming the forum to death with your crackpot fringe theories, superiority complex, and personal drama.

But hey, what else is new.

What do you think, that we're all hateful, unintelligent, unscientific trolls? Or perhaps you haven't listened to anything anyone has said to you for the last 4 months?

[edais]

hahahaha did you just refer to damon as peaceful?  hahahaha

You guys, you can just ignore it if he posts stuff like this.  It would probably piss him off more.  Abe you can just ignore it when people say mean things to you for no reason.  

Abe, now you've made it sound like you only appreciate those who agree with you or don't have an opinion.  Drama drama drama drama.  Cmon guys, it was kinda fun with the 9/11 crap because it's so ridiculous, but all this drama around flouride?  Lame.

Ah, whatever i'm out.

[edais]

Come to think of it, it probably wouldn't piss him off more.  He gets sucked into badgering really quickly.    Is that what everyone is trying to do now?  Just piss him off?  It's not going to make him stop posting crackpot theories, if it hasn't already.

[PookztA]

Phil:

I just wanted to clarify something:

I appreciate people who review information before forming an opinion of that information, regardless of whether or not they agree with me. If someone reviews the information and disagrees with me, we probably could have a very cool discussion about the topic, and why we have differing view points.

When I sent this information out on my listserv today, two people replied. One person agreed with me and we had a very good discussion about our Fluoride-related health concerns, and how we can address them. The other person disagreed with me, and we had a very good discussion about his concerns regarding the information, and why he thinks the Fluoride-related health concerns are being exaggerated. Both were mature, productive discussions, and I told both of them that I appreciated their opinion, even though one of the two people disagreed with me.

See ya Phil,

-Abe

[conspiratheorist]

Hi Pook,

When you say review, you provide 300 pages of reading / 2 hours video / copy paste a mountain of junk like the fluoride information.

How about POSTING A MIX ????

[zensphere]

The initial abstract regarding the pineal gland is interesting. I wonder if and how that would affect pineal function.

The page that the list of articles came from has a link at the bottom, which directs to “products without fluoride,” which leads here:

>http://positivehealthyliving.ineways.com/ReplicatedSites/CorporateFocusTemplate.aspx?PageMode=Production

Looks like someone's MLM site for household products. The profit motive would seem a source of bias…

There seem to be legitimate risks to over consumption of fluoride, but I'd have a hard time swallowing that particular list of posted claims.

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